Atheists and Wile E. Coyote

Good evening everyone,

My last post was very much on the fact of absolute truth, and how we only want it for certain things in life.

Last time our fellow apologists Norman and Frank decided to join us for that featured post. And I thought we could bring them back to a post that I think will turn some heads.

The Road Runner Tactic

“If someone said to you, “I have one insight for you that absolutely revolutionize your ability to quickly and clearly identify the false statements and false philosophies that permeate our culture,” would you be interested? That’s what we’re about to do here. In fact, if we had to pick just one thinking ability as the most valuable we’ve learned in our many years of seminary and postgraduate  education, it would be this: how to identify and refute self-defeating statements. An incident from a recent talk-radio program will demonstrate what we mean by self-defeating statements.”

So on the last post I wrote, I was saying how Atheists can’t handle hearing the truth because it doesn’t enlighten them, well this post is based on the fact of how Atheists say that we can’t get our facts straight, but when looking deeper into the argument you realize it is the Atheist who can’t get their facts straight. Let’s continue into this story from Norm and Frank.

“The program’s liberal host, Jerry was taking calls on the subject of morality. After hearing numerous callers boldly claim that a certain moral position was true, one caller blurted out, “Jerry! Jerry! There’s no such thing as truth!” I(frank) scrambled for the phone and began to dial furiously. Busy. Busy. Busy. I wanted to get on and say, “Jerry! To the guy who said, ‘there is no such thing as truth’-is that true?” I never did get through. And Jerry, of course, agreed with the caller never realizing that his claim could not possibly be true- because it would be self-defeating.”

So with what I said earlier, this caller has obviously not gotten his facts straight, he could have thought before he spoke those words, but instead like Wile E. Coyote, he is left standing over an empty gap that he is about to fall into once he has realized his mistake.

“A self-defeating statement is one that fails to meet its own standard. As we’re sure you realize, the caller’s statement “there is no truth” claims to be true and thus defeats itself. It’s like saying, “I can’t speak a word of English.” If someone ever said that, you obviously would respond, “Wait a minute! Your statement must be false because you just uttered it in English!”

“Self-defeating statements are made routinely in our postmodern culture, and once you sharpen your ability to detect them, you’ll become an absolutely fearless defender of truth. No doubt you’ve heard people say things like, “all truth is relative!”

So this is another thing that bums me out. I always get people talking about relativeness, and they say logic and reason prove their claims, but that would just be self-defeating by itself without me even having to say anything. They state that truth is relative, so that would also make their reason for their claim which is logic and reasoning is all based on personal opinion to believe it’s true, not hard facts or evidence.

“All Truth is relative” and “There are no absolutes.” Now you’ll be armed to refute such silly statements by simply revealing that they don’t meet their own criteria. In other words, by turning a self-defeating statement on itself, you can expose it for the nonsense it is.”

“We call this process of turning a self-defeating statement on itself the “Road Runner” tactic because it reminds us of the cartoon characters Road Runner and Wile E. Coyote. As you may remember from Saturday morning cartoons, the Coyote’s one and only quest is to chase down the speedy Road Runner and make him his evening meal. But the Road Runner is simply too fast and too smart. Just when the Coyote is gaining ground, the Road Runner stops short at the cliff’s edge leaving the passing Coyote momentarily suspended in midair, supported by nothing. As soon as the Coyote realizes he has no ground to stand on, he plummets to the valley floor and crashes in a heap.”

“Well, that’s exactly what the Road Runner tactic can do to the relativists and postmodernists of our day. It helps them realize that their arguments cannot sustain their own weight. Consequently they crash to the ground in a heap. This makes you look like a super genius!” -Frank Turek, Norman L. Geisler.

So with this post, I hope Christians and atheists have realized something. If you haven’t gotten your facts right, you will self-defeat yourself and look just like Wile E. Coyote when you hold up the sign for some help, and the newsflash is, you’re not going to  get it, especially if you’re hanging over an edge with no way to get back.

Thank you everyone for your time and I hope to see you next time for some more head-turning facts.

Mitchell Ryan…Out. Blessings.

 

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Absolute truth?

Good afternoon everyone.

Today I want to talk about something that I have wanted to talk about for some time now. But have had to study a little bit.

I’m sure quite a few have heard the term from the movie “A few good men” When Tom Cruise is yelling at Jack Nicholson for the truth. And Jack’s response was as displayed, “You can’t handle the truth!”

Well I’m guessing everyone uses that line here and there, but what I wanted to talk about was what it meant. Especially when it comes to Christianity or any religion at all.

From the apologetic book I’m reading I came past this chapter that talked about the truth and what it has to do with real life. This is what they had to say,

“We demand truth in virtually every area of our lives. For example; we demand the truth from

  • Loved ones (no one wants lies from a spouse or a child)
  • Doctors (we want the right medicine prescribed and the right operations performed)
  • Stock Brokers (we demand that they tell us the truth about companies they recommend)
  • Courts (we want them to convict only the truly guilty)
  • Employers (we want them to tell us the truth and pay us fairly)
  • Airlines (we demand truly safe planes and truly sober pilots)

We also expect to be told the truth when we pick up a reference book, read an article, or watch a news story; we want the truth from advertisers, teachers, and politicians; we assume road signs, medicine bottles, and food labels reveal the truth. In fact, we demand the truth for almost every facet of life that affects our money, relationships, safety, or health.”

So what we have established so far is that, we want the truth from just about everything and every living person, because honestly, who likes to be told lies?

“On the other hand, despite our unwavering demands for truth in those areas, many of us say we aren’t interested in truth when it comes to morality or religion. In fact, many downright reject the idea that any religion can be true.”

So I have started to post comments on some videos that I tend to disagree with. And someone or a few people will come back and rebuke my claim, which then causes the argument to take place. Now I would give the person the evidence that I feel fits the argument. And you guessed it, they shove my evidence saying it hasn’t got enough strong grounds to listen to, so they change the subject. So on with the statement.

“As we’re sure you’ve noticed, there’s a huge contradiction here. Why do we demand truth in everything but morality and religion? Why do we say, “That’s true for you but not for me,” when we’re talking about morality or religion, but we never even think of such nonsense when we’re talking to a stock broker about our money or a doctor about our health?”

Now I have has a lot of people give reasons for this, because we can see the stock broker or the doctor about our problem, but having an argument over a God that “may” not exist is ridiculous. But while doing that, they also shove the idea about morality (which I will be explaining in an upcoming post).

” Although few would admit it, our rejection of religious and moral truth is often on volitional rather than intellectual grounds-we just don’t want to be held accountable to any moral standards or religious doctrine. So we blindly accept the self-defeating truth claims of politically correct intellectuals who tell us that truth does not exist; everything is relative; there are no absolutes; it’s all a matter of opinion; you ought not judge; religion is about faith, not facts! Perhaps Augustine was right when he said that we love truth when it enlightens us, but we hate it when it convicts us. Maybe we can’t handle the truth.” -Frank Turek, Norman L. Geisler.

Let’s thank our two gentleman above for their amazing statement. Now let’s get underway.

So I have always had this argument with Atheists(especially atheists), when I would try to ask them about morality, they would change the subject. My close apologist friend would have an argument with a person who would contradict themselves by saying they don’t believe in God because he is cruel, but then change their mind saying there isn’t enough evidence.  I mean, come one. Get your story straight huh.

Now when I was just starting apologetics, I came past this story where Ray Comfort who is a very well known apologist asked a evolutionist how the water got here. The man’s answer was quite surprising. “The water descended towards earth on a meteorite which had liquid vapors rising from the rock, so when it made contact with the planet, the vapors burst and water was created on the land.” Okay, fair enough. But when Ray asked his next question, this is what made me laugh. “So, if the water got here by the meteor, how did the fish get here?” The Evolutionist’s response was very obvious. “I’m not answering that, that is a stupid question.” And with that he changed the subject and moved on. And funny enough later on. Ray comfort found out that he stated that the fish actually rode down on the meteor with the water vapors.

Two things, talk about absolute truth and avoiding the embarrassment of the question. And that is why he refused to answer, he was not sure on the absolute truth of it and didn’t want to sound stupid over the answer. And this is what I get from every person I comment to. Are they absolutely certain, obviously not. But then they want the absolute truth from everyone else?

So just to finish, I have told this to a lot of people in posts, and I get really criticized for it, because they think I have to have more faith than them, which I will be backing up with evidence in the coming posts.

Thank you everyone and remember.

“I don’t have enough faith to be an atheist.”